Minor Victory

Back in seminary I had to read books by Peter Wagner. When I read them I thought they were, perhaps, the dumbest books I’d ever read.

They were about church growth and missions and how you can save hundreds of people at one time and other odd things.

We were supposed to do a review of one of the books and I remember getting a bad grade. The basic problem pointed out by the Wagnerite professor was that I didn’t like it and thought all his ideas sounded awful happy but not very biblical.

I was reminded of this experience today when I came across a recent quote by Mr. Wagner. Perhaps ol’ Jeffy wasn’t so dumb after all.

““I don’t think there is anything intrinsically wrong with the church growth principles we’ve developed . . . yet somehow they don’t seem to work.”
– C. Peter Wagner

Hey, a guy has to take his victories when he gets them.

3 thoughts on “Minor Victory”

  1. Gandhi had this to say:

    “The methods of conversion must be like Caesar’s wife, above suspicion. Faith is not imparted like secular subjects. It is given through the language of the heart. If a man has a living faith in him, it spreads its aroma like the rose its scent. Because of its invisibility, the extent of its influence is far wider than that of the visible beauty of the color of the petals.”

    “I am, then, not against conversion. But I am against the modern methods of it. Conversion nowadays has become a matter of business, like any other. I remember having read a missionary report saying how much it cost per head to convert and then presenting a budget for ‘the next harvest.'”

    “Conversion without cleanliness of heart can only be a matter for sorrow, not joy, to a godly person.”

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